Monday, October 10, 2005

It's pronounced "Neat-She"...er, I think...

It's been a while since I last posted. I'm still suffering from the same afflictions I was complaining about at the beginning of my last post. I have a midterm test in English on Friday and I'm not looking forward to it. I have an oral exam in Japanese on Thursday, and I'm really not looking forward to it. On the plus side, I was one of the few people who got an A on our first English paper, and I also got an A- on a philosophy test I took, but that's more annoyance than pleasure. Stupid ego.
Anyway, though I wanted to put up a post to let everyone know that I'm still alive and okay, the thing known as college has taken up a lot of my time and energy, so I'm not getting the opportunities to come up with ideas. I've cut back on my reading, and I haven't gone running in five days. You non-runners have no idea how terrible that is.
I won't leave you without some things to think about, though. Though lessened, my reading still continues. Today it was some Nietzsche. Some of you may be familiar with that name. He is most famous for his statement, "God is dead, and we have killed him." I have to laugh at him, though, because while it may have seemed in the late 1800's that the evidence was against God's existence, mankind's concept of Him continues to flourish and survive. I think he would have been surprised at how things turned out. And, while he certainly disagreed with most Christian doctrine, I think that the concept of 'God' that he was challenging is one that we would disagree with and attack also.
But that is not where I wanted to go with this. If you're interested with disagreeing with him, go look up some of his works or find an edition that has selections of his work; he was not the kind of philosopher that could be summed up in one book, and writes many things that are contradictory and paradoxical.
This is what I want to discuss. I like Nietzsche as a challenge: I find he has the most potent response for many of my beliefs and opinions, not just on religion and ethics but also philosophy, history, and aesthetics. He is also willing to put forth opinions that other philosophers are scared or unwilling to admit to. I admire that, and find that his writing is refreshing. But I want to attack some of what he says anyway.
The statement that really caught my eye today is one on a subject I have considered before. Nietzsche says that philosophers study men and postulate universal truths about them from what they find. But, he says, this is flawed because men are different today then they were hundred years ago, or a decade ago, or a millennia ago, so no universal statements about mankind can be fully complete because the philosophers really only describe the present day. In some sense, I have to agree with him. A lot of what philosophers do is exactly that, as I've said before: putting a modern spin on things. However, with my model of reality that I've recently discussed, I can address his argument more fully. Certainly, at one level, the theme of philosopher's works hold the silent premise "in this day and age, such is true," but on another level, there are assertions that are true (or false) for all humans. We have a basic nature that is common to all of us, otherwise we couldn't find any connection with the past in the literature and artefacts we discover. On the other hand, we are also different, because otherwise all humanity would have one culture. In both scenarios, the idea of global community that we see throughout history would not exist. We have to live in a paradoxical reality, and while Nietzsche usually realizes that, he hiccoughed on this one.
Another thing that he says, while I'm at it, is that there is no 'truth' that we can access using language, because all statements is merely "a mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms" ('On Truth and Lies in an Nonmoral sense') combined into patterns that we try to fit into saying things with meaning. But, looking at words the way I've described, we find that Nietzsche (and all the postmodernists who follow after him) are barking up the wrong tree. Words are not fundamental to meaning. While language can certainly not describe everything, it is the higher levels of reality where fundamental truth can be found, not in naked language.
His ideas on morality are difficult, but something struck me about today's reading: he mentions the idea that 'sleeping' morality can make later morality deeper and richer. It seems odd to think that acting barbaric for a time can make you more moral later, but think about this: some of the most moral people did indeed used to be barbaric before they grew out of it. I wouldn't put it like Nietzsche does; I would say that morality means more to the people who have experienced immorality for themselves. Does this make immorality good? No, of course not; but it can end up with good effects. Nietzsche applies this to larger things too: he says that war can be a good thing because it means that culture is asleep for a time. We can see that this is applicable in the actions of the Mongols, who slaughtered thousands in a desperate attempt to become cultured. Again, I think that in this case culture means more to the people who have not experienced it.
One other thing. I've considered my "efficient society" hypothesis, and realized that its most useful application is the analysis of (historical) people in terms of the times they lived in, and the analysis of a (historical) period in terms of the people it produces: essentially, there are no famous men who are ahead of their times. Nietzsche is an example of this: in nearly any other age his work would have been rejected and he would have been forgotten, unless he wrote it and his work was used in a later age: this would, of course, mean that he was a man of that age instead. On the flip side, we can tell, from who Nietzsche is and what he says, what kind of place late 19th century Germany was. But I'll leave that to you to decide.
Okay. I've written more than I expected to, and it was mostly stuff I'd said before. I'll get better after midterms, I promise.

6 Comments:

At 12:26 PM , Blogger Paul said...

...according to the foreward in Dracula, the most frightening thing about the book when it came out was Dracula's effect on the women in the book. Also according to the foreward, the most frightening thing about it today is the effect the women have on the men in the book.

Isn't it great how the people who break down and go insane generate the most lasting philisophical works? :)
(that was a hasty generalization, according to my English class, and I know it is, but I wanted to point that out about Nietzsche. It's funny. Oh, and in German, a 'z' is pronounced sort of like the 'ts' in 'tsunami.' So it's more like 'Neats-chee'...sort of.)

Isn't it annoying how people always take the "God is dead" quote out of context? Gagh, I need to make a huge list of books I need to read. I wish I'd started earlier. Mebbe not on your scale, Emmett, but I definitely could have done without the computer games growing up.

Hey! That's a good example of sleeper morality. I wouldn't dislike computer games so much had I not had a true obsession with them. It's better to remain untainted in the beginning--to know of a particular temptation and reject it from the beginning--but, failing that, this will do.

Have fun ripping apart anything Nietzsche says that annoys you! :)

~Paul

(and yes, the Japanese oral exam will be EVIL. Mine's Friday.)

 
At 9:09 PM , Blogger Maren said...

Good points, Emmett! I just have to say, cuz it's something that has become more and more apparent to me lately, that I can't understand things I read unless its a story line. I'm way impressed that you can read philosophy and not only understand it but bash on it. I have to have someone SAY something, and then I can go with it. I might take a page out of your book and actually say something semi-weighty in my next blog . It depends.

Good luck on your exams, guys!

Stay frosty!~

 
At 4:33 PM , Blogger Elder Child said...

I don't mean to make you guys hate me, but I had my history midterm yesterday and it was one of the easiest tests of my life. Seriously. I only had a problem trying to spell a word and how to phrase things. Good luck!

So about your criticism of Nietzsche. I wish I knew his works better so I could discuss him with understanding. I must rely on your comments. I think you sounded good, for a gentile ;)

I read most of The Great Divorce yesterday and I'll finish it tonight. Very interesting. He almost has it right, too. I say "right," but I mean the way I understand it. I have a theory I'm working on right now, and it's taking a long time to even get the thought in my mind. It's hard to even put into words. I've got to read more and think more about it, but it involves pretty much everything: the purpose of life, our state, heaven and hell, choices, consequences, degrees of glory, what that means, the nature of judgement, the life after this one, the possibility of a life after that perhaps, eternity, improvement, how far we can actually go, and so on. You can see how it would be hard to find reasons beyond what I believe prophets have said. They talk of sin and righteousness and judgement and glory, but they only go so far as to try to get you to do good out of fear of what will happen if you do bad and out of hope of what will happen if you do good. But what really happens? What is grace? Why can't a man live in the presence of our Heavenly Father in sin? I think I have some answers, but I still need to think more. More thinking. Always more thinking.

 
At 4:34 PM , Blogger Elder Child said...

Congrats on your A's!

 
At 4:43 PM , Blogger Paul said...

I think all four of us are thinking about something like that most of the time.... I've been trying to hammer out a few thoughts, too. Mebbe I'll get around to posting it....

 
At 7:44 PM , Blogger Emmett said...

Yeah, the theological theory of everything. I'm working on it too.

 

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